Esperance David – Reflection

INT:    Did you like Scotland? ED:      Yes, I think so.  They were more open, you know. I worked in a school in Scotland, in East Kilbride.  That came after, really, Sandhurst wasn’t it?  And they were very, very nice, you know. The headmaster was nice, a retired army officer, sergeant major, so the school was … Read more

Esperance David – Integration

INT:    Did you find it easy to integrate into Scottish society, or did you feel different? ED:      Jewish society or anything? INT:    Jewish and the wider society. ED:      Well, the wider society, I went back to work when we had another… INT2:  You had a son in between all that. ED:      A son in between, … Read more

Esperance David – In Scotland

INT:    Yeah, and he got a job in Scotland in what year? ED:      Well David was still doing his apprenticeship but to have an Honours degree wasn’t enough to be a chartered engineer, so there was a big concern, an electrical factory, the Brush [Electrical Engineering Company], so he was doing it there, and I … Read more

Esperance David – Life with her husband David

INT:    We haven’t heard about your husband, how did you meet him? ED:      Well, that’s a long story, isn’t it? [Laughter]. ED:      Well, while I was in Israel on my first visit, I was staying with my mum and dad, obviously, but my brother got married and his wife was five months’ pregnant and they … Read more

Esperance David – Life for Esperance in England

INT:    So you must, you were in Britain… INT:    They were in Israel, building the, when did you see them again? ED:      1953. INT:    So, you studied? ED:      I finished my study, then I was teaching. INT:    Oh you were a teacher? ED:      I was teaching. INT:    In London? ED:      In London, I was teaching … Read more

Esperance David – The family in Israel

INT:    So your family were in Israel, they’re building a life up. So, were they with other Iraqis?  Were they a community in Iraq? ED:      Well yes, as I was saying, they were all told to leave and take 50 [pounds]. No matter what you had, house or anything. And when I was in Israel, … Read more

Esperance David – In the 50’s in Baghdad

So the regent and his family were killed by that coup [in 1958] by them [by the Revolutionists], because there was a coup in the government at that time.  So, from a kingdom, that was done away, literally done away, killed all of them, and they established the republic and, from then on, it became … Read more

Esperance David – Baghdad Pogrom 1941

INT:    Can I ask you, again, about the pogrom that you lived through, as a child?  Do you think that was directly related to what was happening in Europe? ED:      Yes, because my dad says, and I have a vision of that, although I don’t remember seeing it, about half a dozen Gestapo people walked … Read more

Esperance David – In London in 1948

INT:    So you were in London, and you’re sending letters to your parents? ED:      Well that came after INT:    Could they tell you about what was happening in Baghdad? ED:      No, no.  In, [they ]kind of, covered [up], what do you call it, enigmatic? INT:    Code? ED:      Yeah, very little.  But I did something that … Read more

Esperance David – During the War in the early 40’s

ED:      Well there was a very bad persecution when I was there, when I was about ten, eleven years old, in the early 40’s, when we had a terrible uprising.  That was awful.  It started one afternoon and my cousin came, they usually came at any time, and he said, shouting, “Batten [down] your windows … Read more